Teh PETRIXXX Show lore is interesting too. It diverges from our timeline in 1488 when Pope Constantine II united italy under a catholic federation, leading to the colonization of Florida by the Italians. This country later falls in the 1700s and a battle in Florida causes a rock to fly into space which hits a ufo containing retardium, causing Florida to become a retarded realm and causes it's inhabitants to act like classic smg4/kitty0706 characters. In the 1920s, Mario comes from the future in a tripod and turns the country into a giant mutated cartoon kingdom where the once normal & realistic humans are now split between the Toads (third human, third gnome, third blocklandian) and the Floridians (half human, half blocklandian). A century later, a young teenager known as Bobert Mann is enjoying lunch at school with his friends when Sunny Omori comes out of a portal and attempts to prevent him from establishing the Confederate American Empire by shooting him, but this backfires and Sunny ends up getting beaten up and his world-traveling device is taken by Bman, who uses it to contact Hyperborea and the Empire of Mennkind (like the rick and morty world but for gman from half life) and he convinces the empires to help him start a war against the Omori regime in America, which took control after he escaped earth and is Hellbent on destroying all elements of Christianity and the white race (for example, you can't clap your hands anymore because you make the praying hand gesture for 0.5 seconds). The alliance's hyper-advanced technology wins leading to the rise of Emperor Bobert I (though he is usually called Bman) and the Confederate American Empire. The world's response to the second civil war led to WW3, consisting of every right wing country being at war with every left wing country while other countries fall into a left vs right civil war, with their factions being at war with other countries. It ends in 2036 with the right faction being victorious but very splintered (such as western europe being balkanized and being split between fascists and monarchists). Bman would get married to a Hyperborean tradwife (I haven't decided her name yet so just call her Bwoman for now) and rules a greater America. Mario, Luigi, Toad & Bowser were extremely helpful to the royalists defeating SMG4's marxist dictatorship and restoring Regent Princess Peach. The show is set 20 years in the future during a period of peace and prosperity, focusing on the spine-ticking, knee-slapping, jimmy-rustling adventures of Mario and Emperor Bman, and can be seen on my Youtube!
Also Sunny Omori and his fag friends are still alive and took over China after their control of America collapsed. They are building up for a potential WW4 and constantly try to fuck with Bman's life.
I like that first map in your post, especially the flags. Did you make it? I’d like to do flags for this series, but I’m just not a good enough flag-maker and there are way too many flags to draw and too many entities that don’t/can’t really have flags.
https://flagmaker-print.com/ No i did not make that map. Here is one possible resource you could use though. I am certain there are more.
I've been working on a post-apocalyptic fantasy/horror book for about seven years now. I am no where near completion, but I also chose to make it an epic that spans two thousand years after the apocalypse, and I include a solar flare.
I hand draw all my maps. Maybe I will post those someday. You have inspired me!
Hey, I am annoyed WI is mostly a left wing area. Did Milwaukee and Madison band together and take out everyone else? Seems unreslistic with the amount of hunters, guns, and “get out of my life attutude” outstate😉
Milwaukee and Madison were destroyed on day one, but the refugee survivors joined the general horde of refugees from greater Chicago and the wider Midwest.
There were a lot of people who gave the socialist regime a run for its money, and there remains an ongoing problem with survivalist bandits in the Wisconsin backcountry. There are also a lot of Wisconsinites in the service of the Minnesota-based Provisional All-American Government, it’s just that the PAAG is on the back foot for the time being.
The rise of a leftist state here doesn’t reflect anything about Wisconsin’s real-life political disposition, but is more like a chain of extreme events caused by compounding disaster. It’s like how Russia wasn’t particularly leftist compared to any other country in Europe, until the Bolshevik revolution suddenly happened.
I hope you realize I am just poking fun, read the WI story and just wow, the details! I think there would be lots of pockets of “prepper people” scattered in WI woods too.
Very good to know. I’ve done a lot of research for this project but still need people to give me tips like this. I’ll try to work this in if I can help it.
There is a similar enclave around Our Lady of Clear Creek Abbey northwest of Tahlequah. The community of monks have attracted a sizeable number of traditional Catholic homesteaders. I don't think there are tons of them, but that region is sparsely populated so they would almost certainly be the largest organized group after the Cherokee.
The students of IU going full SSR is funny. They would probably be waging a perpetual war against the chuds in their own land. Martinsville and Bedford were very working class from my impression of those towns. Very similar to Seymour. Perhaps you could join Lebanon aka Purdue with IU and Greencastle aka DePauw and then through in a few warlords. I used to travel most of Indiana for work.
Oklahoma is a central region to the story, so I'm surprised I don't know about the Tahlequah Catholics. The Cherokee have a fairly tight grasp on the region after a lot of fighting took place there, especially against the Elohim City people. But Roman Catholicism still plays a very important role in Oklahoma in several different ways.
The student revolt factions are their own thing. Since most leftists are so heavily concentrated in urban areas, very few of them would realistically survive. But I want to have some variety so I looked for notable college towns that could maybe somehow foster student revolts. The main idea is that they ride to power off the backs of incoming refugees from the destroyed urban centers, and exploit the power vacuum left by the absence of higher government authority (there is no direct successor to the State of Indiana, for example).
A lot of the fate of the country is just luck of the draw: who won the early fights in the period of total Mad Max chaos during the Nuclear Winter and thus got their foot in the door for the more settled warlord period. But generally you see a lot more far-right militias than left-wing movements, and far more apolitical warlords than both of them combined.
Here is an article about Clear Creek. I guess there are about 200 of them, so not a big community but like I said, there aren't that many people out there.
After reading everything thus far, I’m currently most curious what happened to the Amish peoples. I suppose we’ll start getting hints of that soon when we get to Missouri.
I admittedly was not aware that there was a prominent Amish population in Missouri. But I did account for them in Pennsylvania and the Midwest. They don’t really control any territory directly—with one notable exception—but they are an important demographic within the territories they inhabit. Amish people and other anabaptist farming communities formed an essential base of agricultural expertise to get farming back on track without the help of modern industrial implements.
Their presence in Missouri is pretty small; IRL it amounts to a footnote about the annoyance of being stuck behind a buggy once or twice a week.
Beyond farming, most Amish men are incredible engineers as well. IMO beyond farming, in an apocalypse scenario they’ll also maintain a solid base of early-industrial-era engineering and construction techniques. There’s a lot that goes into raising a high-quality barn/house/road.
And to add a bit more context, he proposed it as a joke, and it goes diagonally through Canada and the US, including Arizona, where I was living at the time, and of course the Canadian turd in charge, deemed him a serious threat to Canada.
Canadian affairs are mostly beyond the scope of this project, although they occasionally influence affairs further south.
As a general rule, I'm trying to avoid mentioning real life persons or organizations when I can help it, and have devised fictional stand-ins for real organizations and people when the need arises. So no 3%ers or Oath Keepers, even if there are factions on this map that greatly resemble them.
I just mention it as another example of this kind of thinking. I love what you’ve got going on and see that it’s plenty to keep you busy for quite some time. 😂 My computer is in the shop, but once I have a screen bigger than an iPhone, I’ll dig in. Looking forward to it.
idea for the point of divergence: the plane that tried destroying the white house succeeded along with several other attacks, with the entire arab league, iran, indonesia & albania being in on it. bombs planted on major buildings all over the country continued into 9/12 and there were 5 extra planes. israel was also meaner to them prior to this which means there's a difference point of divergence but like shut up
I’m intentionally very vague about the PoD, but I’m torn between it either being the fourth 9/11 plane destroying the White House or the 1995 Bojinka Plot actually getting pulled off. The Bojinka Plot was insane and would have hijacked 11 planes worldwide to kill 4,000 people, including Pope John Paul II. Definitely would have provoked a drastic response, had it occurred.
A lot of nukes, a lot of refugees, and a lot of warlords. What you see on the map are basically the remnants of a huge battle royale of millions of people trying to escape the New York metropolitan area.
There’s a municipal police dictatorship that is clinging on to power, an esoteric cult that rivals it, and a colonial outpost from a Massachusetts warlord. Not a whole lot is going on in Connecticut, there just wasn’t much left.
2. If you ever need a short piece based in the Illinois Home Guard or Little Egypt association, let me know — I'm from there and write stories in that area often.
Hate to sound rude or greedy here, but it depends. Are you making this TTRPG to sell as a game? Ultimately this is all part of a book series that I do intend to publish as a source of income.
If you’re just doing some homebrewed tabletop gaming with buddies, go for it. If you’re setting up something professionally, I would rather you not explicitly adopt my setting. I don’t know enough about tabletop gaming to really know how all this works, so pardon my hesitancy.
But it’s not like I have a monopoly on certain concepts here. Warlords, rival rump governments, militias, it’s not like it hasn’t been done before or won’t be done since. Technically this project started as a Fallout NV text RP, it was just so thoroughly transformed into something different. Hopefully this series can help get your creative juices flowing likewise.
Oh I'm not explicitly using your setting, mostly I was looking at the various groups and factions and was hoping to use them as a template/model for my own (it also wouldn't be a 1-to-1, there's major differences in many things that result in major differences of factions).
If I was going to do something with your setting specifically as it is it would be to make an official ttrpg product for your work (of which you'd get royalties). From what I've gathered about your project, however, it wouldn't make a great ttrpg setting (which is fine, I think middle earth is a bad ttrpg setting too). I could be wrong, admittedly I'm not super familiar with this project, the map you made is just utterly amazing, what software did you use for it?
This is awesome
Teh PETRIXXX Show lore is interesting too. It diverges from our timeline in 1488 when Pope Constantine II united italy under a catholic federation, leading to the colonization of Florida by the Italians. This country later falls in the 1700s and a battle in Florida causes a rock to fly into space which hits a ufo containing retardium, causing Florida to become a retarded realm and causes it's inhabitants to act like classic smg4/kitty0706 characters. In the 1920s, Mario comes from the future in a tripod and turns the country into a giant mutated cartoon kingdom where the once normal & realistic humans are now split between the Toads (third human, third gnome, third blocklandian) and the Floridians (half human, half blocklandian). A century later, a young teenager known as Bobert Mann is enjoying lunch at school with his friends when Sunny Omori comes out of a portal and attempts to prevent him from establishing the Confederate American Empire by shooting him, but this backfires and Sunny ends up getting beaten up and his world-traveling device is taken by Bman, who uses it to contact Hyperborea and the Empire of Mennkind (like the rick and morty world but for gman from half life) and he convinces the empires to help him start a war against the Omori regime in America, which took control after he escaped earth and is Hellbent on destroying all elements of Christianity and the white race (for example, you can't clap your hands anymore because you make the praying hand gesture for 0.5 seconds). The alliance's hyper-advanced technology wins leading to the rise of Emperor Bobert I (though he is usually called Bman) and the Confederate American Empire. The world's response to the second civil war led to WW3, consisting of every right wing country being at war with every left wing country while other countries fall into a left vs right civil war, with their factions being at war with other countries. It ends in 2036 with the right faction being victorious but very splintered (such as western europe being balkanized and being split between fascists and monarchists). Bman would get married to a Hyperborean tradwife (I haven't decided her name yet so just call her Bwoman for now) and rules a greater America. Mario, Luigi, Toad & Bowser were extremely helpful to the royalists defeating SMG4's marxist dictatorship and restoring Regent Princess Peach. The show is set 20 years in the future during a period of peace and prosperity, focusing on the spine-ticking, knee-slapping, jimmy-rustling adventures of Mario and Emperor Bman, and can be seen on my Youtube!
Also Sunny Omori and his fag friends are still alive and took over China after their control of America collapsed. They are building up for a potential WW4 and constantly try to fuck with Bman's life.
Oh Hel yea, I am glad I found your stack. All you iFunny chads are based.
You might appreciate this. I just posted it this morning, and then found your series. Something is in the air. https://open.substack.com/pub/aidanmacmillan/p/war-never-changes?r=318imj&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
I like that first map in your post, especially the flags. Did you make it? I’d like to do flags for this series, but I’m just not a good enough flag-maker and there are way too many flags to draw and too many entities that don’t/can’t really have flags.
https://flagmaker-print.com/ No i did not make that map. Here is one possible resource you could use though. I am certain there are more.
I've been working on a post-apocalyptic fantasy/horror book for about seven years now. I am no where near completion, but I also chose to make it an epic that spans two thousand years after the apocalypse, and I include a solar flare.
I hand draw all my maps. Maybe I will post those someday. You have inspired me!
Hey, I am annoyed WI is mostly a left wing area. Did Milwaukee and Madison band together and take out everyone else? Seems unreslistic with the amount of hunters, guns, and “get out of my life attutude” outstate😉
Milwaukee and Madison were destroyed on day one, but the refugee survivors joined the general horde of refugees from greater Chicago and the wider Midwest.
There were a lot of people who gave the socialist regime a run for its money, and there remains an ongoing problem with survivalist bandits in the Wisconsin backcountry. There are also a lot of Wisconsinites in the service of the Minnesota-based Provisional All-American Government, it’s just that the PAAG is on the back foot for the time being.
The rise of a leftist state here doesn’t reflect anything about Wisconsin’s real-life political disposition, but is more like a chain of extreme events caused by compounding disaster. It’s like how Russia wasn’t particularly leftist compared to any other country in Europe, until the Bolshevik revolution suddenly happened.
I hope you realize I am just poking fun, read the WI story and just wow, the details! I think there would be lots of pockets of “prepper people” scattered in WI woods too.
St. Mary's KS should be a Catholic enclave. The SSPX basically control the town.
Very good to know. I’ve done a lot of research for this project but still need people to give me tips like this. I’ll try to work this in if I can help it.
There is a similar enclave around Our Lady of Clear Creek Abbey northwest of Tahlequah. The community of monks have attracted a sizeable number of traditional Catholic homesteaders. I don't think there are tons of them, but that region is sparsely populated so they would almost certainly be the largest organized group after the Cherokee.
The students of IU going full SSR is funny. They would probably be waging a perpetual war against the chuds in their own land. Martinsville and Bedford were very working class from my impression of those towns. Very similar to Seymour. Perhaps you could join Lebanon aka Purdue with IU and Greencastle aka DePauw and then through in a few warlords. I used to travel most of Indiana for work.
Oklahoma is a central region to the story, so I'm surprised I don't know about the Tahlequah Catholics. The Cherokee have a fairly tight grasp on the region after a lot of fighting took place there, especially against the Elohim City people. But Roman Catholicism still plays a very important role in Oklahoma in several different ways.
The student revolt factions are their own thing. Since most leftists are so heavily concentrated in urban areas, very few of them would realistically survive. But I want to have some variety so I looked for notable college towns that could maybe somehow foster student revolts. The main idea is that they ride to power off the backs of incoming refugees from the destroyed urban centers, and exploit the power vacuum left by the absence of higher government authority (there is no direct successor to the State of Indiana, for example).
A lot of the fate of the country is just luck of the draw: who won the early fights in the period of total Mad Max chaos during the Nuclear Winter and thus got their foot in the door for the more settled warlord period. But generally you see a lot more far-right militias than left-wing movements, and far more apolitical warlords than both of them combined.
Yeah it makes sense.
Here is an article about Clear Creek. I guess there are about 200 of them, so not a big community but like I said, there aren't that many people out there.
https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/to-find-your-people-how-catholics
After reading everything thus far, I’m currently most curious what happened to the Amish peoples. I suppose we’ll start getting hints of that soon when we get to Missouri.
I admittedly was not aware that there was a prominent Amish population in Missouri. But I did account for them in Pennsylvania and the Midwest. They don’t really control any territory directly—with one notable exception—but they are an important demographic within the territories they inhabit. Amish people and other anabaptist farming communities formed an essential base of agricultural expertise to get farming back on track without the help of modern industrial implements.
Their presence in Missouri is pretty small; IRL it amounts to a footnote about the annoyance of being stuck behind a buggy once or twice a week.
Beyond farming, most Amish men are incredible engineers as well. IMO beyond farming, in an apocalypse scenario they’ll also maintain a solid base of early-industrial-era engineering and construction techniques. There’s a lot that goes into raising a high-quality barn/house/road.
Anyone familiar with Diagolon? Proposed by a former Canadian military guy, now comedian? That had potential.
And to add a bit more context, he proposed it as a joke, and it goes diagonally through Canada and the US, including Arizona, where I was living at the time, and of course the Canadian turd in charge, deemed him a serious threat to Canada.
Canadian affairs are mostly beyond the scope of this project, although they occasionally influence affairs further south.
As a general rule, I'm trying to avoid mentioning real life persons or organizations when I can help it, and have devised fictional stand-ins for real organizations and people when the need arises. So no 3%ers or Oath Keepers, even if there are factions on this map that greatly resemble them.
I just mention it as another example of this kind of thinking. I love what you’ve got going on and see that it’s plenty to keep you busy for quite some time. 😂 My computer is in the shop, but once I have a screen bigger than an iPhone, I’ll dig in. Looking forward to it.
can I play
No mom said it’s my turn on the Xbox
idea for the point of divergence: the plane that tried destroying the white house succeeded along with several other attacks, with the entire arab league, iran, indonesia & albania being in on it. bombs planted on major buildings all over the country continued into 9/12 and there were 5 extra planes. israel was also meaner to them prior to this which means there's a difference point of divergence but like shut up
I’m intentionally very vague about the PoD, but I’m torn between it either being the fourth 9/11 plane destroying the White House or the 1995 Bojinka Plot actually getting pulled off. The Bojinka Plot was insane and would have hijacked 11 planes worldwide to kill 4,000 people, including Pope John Paul II. Definitely would have provoked a drastic response, had it occurred.
The new jersey article should just be a laughing pepe
What happened in New York?
A lot of nukes, a lot of refugees, and a lot of warlords. What you see on the map are basically the remnants of a huge battle royale of millions of people trying to escape the New York metropolitan area.
What is happening in Connecticut?
There’s a municipal police dictatorship that is clinging on to power, an esoteric cult that rivals it, and a colonial outpost from a Massachusetts warlord. Not a whole lot is going on in Connecticut, there just wasn’t much left.
Thanks for sharing this
Well, that's one way to reverse global warming.
This seems like an incredible story. I can't wait to learn the lore of this new America!
No city not connected to major river or harbor wont exist.
1. You should be really proud of this.
2. If you ever need a short piece based in the Illinois Home Guard or Little Egypt association, let me know — I'm from there and write stories in that area often.
I'm working on a post apoc ttrpg that is similar, but also very different. Is it okay for me to use your as some inspiration?
Hate to sound rude or greedy here, but it depends. Are you making this TTRPG to sell as a game? Ultimately this is all part of a book series that I do intend to publish as a source of income.
If you’re just doing some homebrewed tabletop gaming with buddies, go for it. If you’re setting up something professionally, I would rather you not explicitly adopt my setting. I don’t know enough about tabletop gaming to really know how all this works, so pardon my hesitancy.
But it’s not like I have a monopoly on certain concepts here. Warlords, rival rump governments, militias, it’s not like it hasn’t been done before or won’t be done since. Technically this project started as a Fallout NV text RP, it was just so thoroughly transformed into something different. Hopefully this series can help get your creative juices flowing likewise.
Oh I'm not explicitly using your setting, mostly I was looking at the various groups and factions and was hoping to use them as a template/model for my own (it also wouldn't be a 1-to-1, there's major differences in many things that result in major differences of factions).
If I was going to do something with your setting specifically as it is it would be to make an official ttrpg product for your work (of which you'd get royalties). From what I've gathered about your project, however, it wouldn't make a great ttrpg setting (which is fine, I think middle earth is a bad ttrpg setting too). I could be wrong, admittedly I'm not super familiar with this project, the map you made is just utterly amazing, what software did you use for it?
I used paint.net, a free paint software. I took a template roadmap, cropped it, and did the rest by hand. Took me about a month to make.